
Stihl
Stihl MS 881 Magnum
The biggest production chainsaw you can buy new — 121.6cc and 8.6 hp — and owner threads are honest that almost nobody needs one. The people who do (slabbing-mill operators, storm crews facing 4-foot trunks, big-timber fallers) describe torque that simply doesn't stall: it pulls .404 chain on a 36-41 inch bar through hardwood at a steady, unhurried pace. Milling forums treat it as the safe choice over the 661 for 36-inch-plus slabs because it stays out of the RPM range where smaller saws cook themselves. The gripes are what you'd expect: 21.4 lbs before you add a 3-foot bar, a cold-start flooding ritual owners learn the hard way, an old-school carburetor (IntelliCarb, not M-Tronic) that may need seasonal retuning, and a price around $2,680 that makes used MS 880s tempting. Chain speed is modest, so it feels slow limbing — this is a torque instrument, not a firewood saw.
Specifications
Highlights
Pros
- ✓Highest displacement and power of any production saw sold new — 121.6cc / 8.6 hp
- ✓Torque delivery that holds chain speed with a 36-inch bar fully buried, which is why milling forums default to it
- ✓Rated for guide bars up to 41 inches — handles wood nothing else in the catalog can
- ✓HD2 filtration and heavy-duty build made for hours-long milling sessions
- ✓Simple carbureted two-stroke — no engine electronics to fail, and any saw shop can rebuild it
Cons
- ✗21.4 lb powerhead — closer to 30 lbs run-ready with a long bar, brutal for anything but bucking and milling
- ✗Around $2,680, typically before adding the long bar and ripping chain most buyers want it for
- ✗No M-Tronic — the IntelliCarb still needs manual tuning, and owners report a fussy cold-start routine
- ✗Modest chain speed makes it feel sluggish in small wood; total overkill under 30-inch timber
- ✗1-year consumer / 3-month commercial warranty is thin for a $2,700 professional tool
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